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2020.11.24 00:17 ThanksObama2000 Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya avenged her husbands death on the frontlines by selling all her belongings, knitting for extra money, wrote the Kremlin a letter demanding to buy a tank, went to tank school, and fought on the frontlines. She died from wounds sustained while fixing her tank in battle.

Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya avenged her husbands death on the frontlines by selling all her belongings, knitting for extra money, wrote the Kremlin a letter demanding to buy a tank, went to tank school, and fought on the frontlines. She died from wounds sustained while fixing her tank in battle. submitted by ThanksObama2000 to interestingasfuck [link] [comments]


2020.11.23 01:51 DepressedMemerBoi The Soviet T-34 medium tank named “Fighting Girlfriend” by the driver Mariya Oktyabrskaya. Late 1943 or early 1944, Vitebsk region. (Her story in the comments)

The Soviet T-34 medium tank named “Fighting Girlfriend” by the driver Mariya Oktyabrskaya. Late 1943 or early 1944, Vitebsk region. (Her story in the comments) submitted by DepressedMemerBoi to TankPorn [link] [comments]


2020.11.12 13:51 ourfunlittlesecret69 German world war veterans should be celebrated too.

edit: Yes, celebrate isn't the right word. Let's say honour instead.

We always see the same posts dedicated to the war heroes of WW1 & 2...

The point is, and especially the case for WW1, it wasn't just the allies against evil. It was humans, against other humans, against other men with mothers and wives and children, who didn't want the end of mankind, who didn't want to torture and subjugate and persecute minorities. For the most part, these were ordinary men who were thrust into war by the leaders of their countries, they didn't want to leave their lands to kill us. They simply wanted to do their duty for their country, and then go back home to their family and friends just like the rest of us.
For those that have seen They Shall Not Grow Old, you will probably know what I'm talking about, because there is a very prominent section where it describes our soldiers implicit lack of hatred for their enemy, they understood that they were simply doing the duty set before them by their leaders, as were we.
Now, obviously WW2 is a bit more hazy, but for the most part it holds true, just ordinary men trying to do their best for their country, WW2 was admittedly a slightly more sordid affair, but that doesn't change the fact that people who had no hate for us whatsoever were thrust into the field of fire for their country just the same as us. And they too did heroic deeds just like we did, to save their friends, to overcome insurmountable odds, to be a heroic figure for their own nation.
It's been a long time since those wars, but still we do not celebrate the heroic deeds of our then enemy, and I think it's time we did. Not to dismiss the pain and suffering we caused each other, but it's all over now. There is no hatred between us, and as such, we should honour those on the other side. Not out of disrespect for anybody, but for the respect for everybody. Yes they killed a lot of our friends and family, but we also killed a lot of theirs. And as former enemies of the battlefield can meet and shake hands, as former enemies can become best friends so too can we honour those who went above and beyond the call of duty, even if it was against us.
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Additionally, I want it to be known that I am in no way condoning any actions of any parties, I am not excusing the concentration camps, or the war crimes, or anything like that.
I'm just trying to say that we should honour all of the ordinary men, the ones who didn't enter with malice in their hearts, the ones who were a victim of circumstance, I want to add perspective, and give honour where it's due, not to enemies, but to humans, because deep down, for the most part, we're all the same.

To hammer this point home, let me re-iterate a few lines from a previous clip...
"Mostly, they were just boys as we were... I don't think the average British soldier ever had any deep feelings regarding revenge against the German, he admired him, and respected him... As the war went on I felt as much sympathy for them as I did for myself... none of them thought we should have been fighting each other... The German soldier, he was a very nice fellow as a rule... We got on very well actually, they used to mix in with us... They were decent family people, who thought a great deal of their children... they didn't seem to bear any malice against us... they had to do what they were told just like us."
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2020.10.21 01:46 Frontpage-Watch [#29+16642447] TIL of a woman named Mariya Oktyabrskaya, who, after her husband was killed by Nazis, sold all of her possessions in order to drive a tank for the Soviets. It was named "Fighting Girlfriend," and was only ever used in battles against the Germans. She was named... [/r/todayilearned]

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2020.10.20 20:34 unremovable TIL of a woman named Mariya Oktyabrskaya, who, after her husband was killed by Nazis, sold all of her possessions in order to drive a tank for the Soviets. It was named "Fighting Girlfriend," and was only ever used in battles against the Germans. She was named Hero of the Soviet Union after death.

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2020.09.18 03:50 Detroitaa Mariya Oktyabrskaya. When her husband was killed in war, fighting the Germans, she sold everything she had, to buy a tank. She called it the Fighting Girlfriend & used it in battle against the nazis in 1943.

Mariya Oktyabrskaya. When her husband was killed in war, fighting the Germans, she sold everything she had, to buy a tank. She called it the Fighting Girlfriend & used it in battle against the nazis in 1943. submitted by Detroitaa to OldSchoolCool [link] [comments]


2020.02.09 21:12 FactoidFinder Mariya Oktyabrskaya Be like (but not French though)

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2020.02.04 02:23 Plutonium21 Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya

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2020.02.03 12:06 ypsilonmercuri Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya

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2019.12.02 23:27 Vami_IV [Battle] RCW Supplement: Russian ships, 1919

March 1919 (as of)

Black Sea Fleet

Aᴛʜᴇɴs. With Anarchist-inspired anti-Entente revolts sweeping the Cʀɪᴍᴇᴀɴ Pᴇɴɪɴsᴜʟᴀ, total evacuation of all Entente - read Greek - resources became inevitable. Then, when gun battles filled the air in Sᴇᴠᴀsᴛᴏᴘᴏʟ itself and the Greek XIV Division found itself attacked everywhere, the provisional Crimean government was packed up and Greek citizens gathered up. There is but one hope for the Greeks, one blessing waiting in the harbor: the Black Sea Fleet. Fighting all the way back to the ships, and at times on the ships to crush mutinies by the Ukrainian crew of the former Imperial Russian fleet, the Greeks finish their evacuation early in the month. Without further delay, they depart. And the largest fleet to ever sail on the Black Sea leaves, destined for every port of size in Greece.
These ships are now in Greek possession, all with almost entirely Ukrainian crews:
Battleships: Georgii Pobedonosets, Tri Sviatitelia (midway through a refit), Rostislav, Potemkin, Evstafi, Ioann Zlatoust.
Cruisers: Almaz, General Kornilov
Destroyers: Bespokoiny-class (except Gromki, which was sunk 18 June 1918), Zheleznyakov, Shaumyan.
Submarines: Sudak, Losos, Nalim, Skat, Minoga, Karp, Karas, Krab, Nerpen, Tyulen, Burvestnik, Utka, Narval, Kit, Kashalot, AG-21, AG-22, AG-23, AG-24, AG-25, AG-26.
Other: Sinop (former predreadnought).

Red Fleet

Every ship listed here is in the Baltic, and probably needs repairs and crew.
Battleships: Predreads: Imperator Aleksandr II, Grazhdanin (formerly Tsesarevich), Andrei Pervozvanny, Imperator Pavel I; Dreadnoughts: Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya (formerly Gangut), Petropavlovsk, Sevastopol, Poltava.
Battlecruisers: All four Borodino-class, lying incomplete in Sᴛ. Pᴇᴛᴇʀsʙᴜʀɢ.
Cruisers: Rossia, Gromoboi, Admiral Makarov, Bayan, Pallada, Rurik, Svetlana-class (all four lying incomplete in Sᴛ. Pᴇᴛᴇʀsʙᴜʀɢ), Admiral Nakhimov-class (all four lying incomplete in Sᴛ. Pᴇᴛᴇʀsʙᴜʀɢ), Diana, Aurora, Bogatyr, Komintern (formerly Pamiat' Merkuria), Oleg.
Destroyers: Novik, Orfey-class (Many under construction still in Sᴛ. Pᴇᴛᴇʀsʙᴜʀɢ), Izyaslav-class (Many under construction still in Sᴛ. Pᴇᴛᴇʀsʙᴜʀɢ).
Submarines: Kasatka-class (except Nalim and Skat), Kuguar, Krasnoarmeets (formerly Leopard), Komissar (formerly Pantera), Bolshevik (formerly Rys), Kommunar (formerly Tigr), Tovarich (formerly Tur), Vepr, Volk, Yaguar, Edinorog, Proletariy (formerly Zmeya), Ugor, Yaz, Erzh, Forel.

Black Fleet

Other

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2019.09.02 08:57 PrometheanZer0 Potentially getting into the game and had a question

So a couple question. My friends are thinking about playing and if I decide to I will probably be picking up Soviets. First I was wondering what the most coat effective way to get in would be, since I need to plan on a budget. Second are their rules for Mariya Oktyabrskaya?
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2019.08.29 23:49 KotFedot666 The Soviet Woman Who Bought A Tank And Personally Drove It Into Battle

Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya was a Soviet tank driver and mechanic who fought on the Eastern Front against Nazi Germany during World War II. After her husband was killed fighting in 1941, Mariya sold all of her possessions to donate toward acquiring a tank for the war effort. She christened the tank “Fighting Friend,” and received a personal allowance from Stalin to become its driver mechanic, the first woman in the world who became such. Oktyabrskaya proved her ability and bravery in battle, and was promoted to the rank of Sergeant. After she died of wounds from battle in 1944, she was posthumously made a Hero of the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union's highest honor for bravery during combat.
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2019.07.21 17:42 CommunistPigeon1945 Mariya Oktyabrskaya's page on Wikipedia

Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya (Ukrainian: Марія Василівна Октябрська; 16 August 1905 – 15 March 1944) was a Soviet tank driver and mechanic who fought on the Eastern Front against Nazi Germany during World War II. After her husband was killed fighting in 1941, Oktyabrskaya sold her possessions to donate a tank for the war effort, and requested that she be allowed to drive it. She donated and drove a T-34 medium tank, which she named "Fighting Girlfriend" ("Боевая подруга").
Oktyabrskaya proved her ability and bravery in battle, and was promoted to the rank of Sergeant. She was killed in battle in 1944, and was posthumously made a Hero of the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union's highest award for bravery during combat. She was the first of the few female tank drivers to be awarded this honor.
EARLY LIFE
Mariya Vasilyevna Oktyabrskaya was born into a poor Ukrainian family on the Crimean Peninsula. She was one of ten children. Before the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet name for the eastern front of Second World War, she worked in a cannery, and then as a telephone operator. In 1925, she married a Soviet army officer. While married to her husband, she began to acquire an interest in military matters. She became involved in the 'Military Wives Council' and was trained as a nurse in the army. She also learned how to use weapons and drive vehicles. She said: "Marry a serviceman, and you serve in the army: an officer's wife is not only a proud woman, but also a responsible title."[2]
THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR
When the eastern front of World War IIopened, Mariya was evacuated to Tomsk in Siberia. While living in Tomsk, she learned that her husband had been killed fighting the forces of Nazi Germany near Kiev in August 1941. The news took two years to reach her. The news angered her greatly, and she became determined to fight the Germans in revenge for her husband's death. She sold all of her possessions to donate a tank for the Red Army. She requested the tank to be named "Fighting Girlfriend" ("Боевая подруга") and that she be allowed to drive it. The State Defense Committee agreed to this. The tank Mariya donated was a T-34 medium tank.[3]
By this time, Oktyabrskaya was 38 years old. She took part in a five-month tank training program immediately after the donation. The five months of training was unusual for tank crews at the time: usually, tank crews were rushed straight to the front line with minimal training. After completing her training, she was posted to the 26th Guards Tank Brigade, part of 2nd Guards Tank Corps, in September 1943 as a driver and mechanic. She named her tank 'Fighting Girlfriend' and emblazoned these words on the turret of the T-34. Many of her fellow tankers saw her as a publicity stunt and a joke, but this attitude changed when Oktyabrskaya began fighting in her first tank battles in Smolensk.[2]
Her first tank battle began on 21 October 1943. It involved Oktyabrskaya maneuvering her tank in intense fighting; she and her fellow crew members destroyed machine-gun nests and artillery guns. When her tank was hit by gunfire, Oktyabrskaya, disregarding orders, would leap out of her tank and repair the tank, amidst heavy fire. During this feat she was promoted to the rank of Sergeant.[1]
A month later, on 17–18 November, the Soviet forces captured the town of Novoye Selo in the region of Vitebsk during a night battle. During this attack, Oktyabrskaya enlarged her reputation as a skilled tank driver. On the 17th, Oktyabrskaya took part in an assault on the German positions near Novoye Selo. However, a German artillery shell exploded against her tank's tracks, halting her advance. Oktyabrskaya and a fellow crewman jumped out to repair the track, while other crew members gave covering fire from the tank's turret. Eventually, they fixed the tank track and her tank rejoined the main unit several days later.[2]
Two months later, on 17 January 1944, Oktyabrskaya fought in another night attack as part of the Leningrad–Novgorod Offensive. The battle would prove to be her last. The attack took place at the village of Shvedy near Vitebsk. During the battle, she drove her T-34 about the German defenses, and destroyed resistance in trenches and machine-gun nests. The tank crew also destroyed a German self-propelled gun. Subsequently, the tank was hit by a German anti-tank shell, again in the tracks, and was immobilized. Oktyabrskaya immediately got out of the tank and began to repair the track, amid fierce small arms and artillery fire. She managed to repair the track, but she was hit in the head by shell fragments and lost consciousness. After the battle she was transported to a Soviet military field hospital at Fastov, near Kiev, where she remained in a coma for two months, before finally dying on 15 March. The following August, Oktyabrskaya was posthumously made a Hero of the Soviet Union in recognition of her bravery in the battles around Vitebsk.[4][5]
REPRESENTATIONS IN MEDIA
US National Public Radio featured a cartoon of Oktyabrskaya to headline a story about "rejected princesses" that Disney and other storytellers had hitherto ignored.[6]
SEE ALSO
List of female Heroes of the Soviet Union
Aleksandra Samusenko
Irina Levchenko
Aleksandra Boiko
REFERENCES
Sakaida, Henry (20 April 2012). Heroines of the Soviet Union 1941–45. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9781780966922.
a b c Serov, Sergey. "Октябрьская Мария Васильевна". Warheroes.ru. Retrieved 11 July 2011.
Forczyk, Robert (23 October 2007). Panther vs T-34: Ukraine 1943. Bloomsbury USA. ISBN 9781846031496.
Pennington, Reina; Higham, Robin (2003). Amazons to fighter pilots : a biographical dictionary of military women / Vol. 1, A-Q. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press. p. 319. OCLC 773504359.
Streather, Adrian (15 January 2011). Red & Soviet Military and Paramilitary Services: Female Uniforms 1941-1991: (officer and Enlisted Personnel). Veloce Publishing Ltd. ISBN 9781845840679.
"No Tiara, No Problem: 'Rejected Princesses' Have Stories Worth Telling". NPR.org.
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2019.06.07 16:11 Kinetekerz "Fighting Girlfriend" the squad mate that we all want! [BFV]

"Under intense fire, she rushed out of the turret to repair her tank. Her fellow crewmen provided covering fire while she fixed the tank and jumped back in."
Wait... She didn't get headshotted by a sniper?
WHERE DO I FIND THIS SQUAD!!??
Jokes aside, stumbled across this article and thought a few of you may find interest, and a bit of humour in it also.
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2019.03.16 18:41 Digital-Chupacabra Mariya Oktyabrskaya

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2019.01.26 12:21 Frontpage-Watch [#80+6359204] TIL that a Ukrainian woman named Mariya oktyabrskaya sold all her possessions so she could donate a tank to help with the war and requested to drive so she could kill Nazis after her husband died fighting in the war.she was promoted to sergeant and awarded a br... [/r/todayilearned]

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2019.01.26 11:40 DeusBex I'd love to see a war story inspired by Mariya Oktyabrskaya, who sold all her possessions to buy and drive a tank with which to kill Nazis after her husband died fighting in the war.

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2019.01.26 11:34 Naith123 Mariya Oktyabrskaya sold everything to buy a tank to kill nazis after they killed her husband

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariya_Oktyabrskaya
Mariya was evacuated to Tomsk in Siberia. While living in Tomsk, she learned that her husband was killed fighting the forces of Nazi Germany near Kiev in August 1941. The news took two years to reach her. The news angered her greatly, and she became determined to fight the Germans in vengeance for her husband's death. She sold all of her possessions to donate a tank for the Red Army. She requested the tank to be named "Fighting Girlfriend" ("Боевая подруга") and that she be allowed to drive it. The State Defense Committee agreed to this. The tank Mariya donated was a T-34 medium tank.[3]
By this time Oktyabrskaya was 38 years old. She took part in a five-month tank training program immediately after the donation. The five months of training was unusual for tank crews at the time: usually, tank crews were rushed straight to the front line with minimal training. After completing her training, she was posted to the 26th Guards Tank Brigade, part of 2nd Guards Tank Corps, in September 1943 as a driver and mechanic. She named her tank 'Fighting Girlfriend' and emblazoned these words on the turret of the T-34. Many of her fellow tankers saw her as a publicity stunt and a joke, but this attitude changed when Oktyabrskaya began fighting in her first tank battles in Smolensk.[2]
Her first tank battle began on 21 October 1943. Her first battle involved Oktyabrskaya maneuvering her tank in intense fighting; she and her fellow crew members destroyed machine-gun nests and artillery guns. When her tank was hit by gunfire, Oktyabrskaya, disregarding orders, would leap out of her tank and repair the tank, amidst heavy fire. During this feat she was promoted to the rank of Sergeant.[1]
A month later, on 17–18 November, the Soviet forces captured the town of Novoye Selo in the region of Vitebsk during a night battle. During this attack, Oktyabrskaya enlarged her reputation as a skilled tank driver. On the 17th, Oktyabrskaya took part in an assault on the German positions near Novoye Selo. However, a German artillery shell exploded against her tank's tracks, halting her advance. Oktyabrskaya and a fellow crewman jumped out to repair the track, while other crew members gave covering fire from the tank's turret. Eventually, they fixed the tank track and her tank rejoined the main unit several days later.[2]
Two months later, on 17 January 1944, Oktyabrskaya fought in another night attack as part of the Leningrad–Novgorod Offensive. The battle would prove to be her last. The attack took place at the village of Shvedy near Vitebsk. During the battle, she drove her T-34 about the German defenses, and destroyed resistance in trenches and machine-gun nests. The tank crew also destroyed a German self-propelled gun. Subsequently, the tank was hit by a German anti-tank shell, again in the tracks, and was immobilized. Oktyabrskaya immediately got out of the tank and began to repair the track, amid fierce small arms and artillery fire. She managed to repair the track, but she was hit in the head by shell fragments and lost consciousness. After the battle she was transported to a Soviet military field hospital at Fastov, near Kiev, where she remained in a coma for two months, before finally dying on 15 March.
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2019.01.26 07:33 unremovable TIL that a Ukrainian woman named Mariya oktyabrskaya sold all her possessions so she could donate a tank to help with the war and requested to drive so she could kill Nazis after her husband died fighting in the war.she was promoted to sergeant and awarded a bravery during combat award

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2018.12.16 08:13 Saltzier A closer look at the Soviet BB line (and ranting about name choices)

First off, of course all of this is purely speculatory gleamings from rough and still in progress screenshots so any of the statements in regards to armament can end up to be total garbage once they hit supertest.

Part 1 – the actual "Russian Battleship line":

Tier III - Russian Empire

Князь Суворов

KNYAZ SUVOROV, 1907

Name: «Prince Suvorov», named after Alexander Suvorov, 1730-1800
Type: Skvortsov M1907 Dreadnought design mixed with a more traditional secondary armament layout
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
5x2 – 305-mm/52 – M1907 14x – 120-mm/50 – M1905 12x – 76.2-mm/30 – M1914
 
An odd one to start off with, as WG put a few weird twists on the design. While the 1907 design was expected by most as the T3 candidate, the original layout sported a relatively modern arrangement of the secondary guns in low-profile twin turrets, whereas WG opted to instead mount them as traditional casemates to the sides thus significantly raising the middle deck superstructure and the main gun turrets there. Also for whatever reason they decided to arm it with an AA-suite roughly 6 times the expected guns for the time-period...
The name itself also could have been better, as Knyaz Suvorov was a Borodino-class pre-dreadnought that only sunk in 1905.
 
Tier IV - Russian Empire

Гангут

GANGUT, 1918

Name: The Battle of Gangut, 1714
Type: Sevastopol-class dreadnought of 1909 with late '10s refit.
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
4x3 – 305-mm/52 – M1907 16x – 120-mm/50 – M1905 4x – 76.2-mm/30 – M1914
4x – 7.62-mm – Maxim
 
First off, hey look an (for the time period) actually reasonable AA-suite!
Nothing too special here, again the Sevastopol-class as in Russian service was expected for the T4 slot.
The name choice is a bit odd, going with the specific name of Gangut instead of the generic Sevastopol (little trivia: Gangut is already in the game as post-refit Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya).
 

Part 2 – Inter-period refits under Soviet flag:

Tier V - Russian Empire/Soviet Union

Пётр Вели́кий

PYOTR VELIKY, 1932

Name: «Peter the Great», named after Tsar Peter I Romanov, 1672-1725
Type: Putilov-Blohm&Voss No. 707 Battlecruiser Project of 1914 as modernized early '30s
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
4x2 – 356-mm/52 – M1913 10x – 130-mm/55 – B-7 10x – 45-mm
10x – 37-mm/67 – 70-K
 
Here's the true oddball of the line, a real obscure design probably right up there with GK's triple turret concept...
Most people expected a modernized Imperatritsa Mariya at T5 though it is not necessarily a bad thing in regards to line continuity for the guns (4x2 356-mm to the 4x3 of Izmail instead of the same layout as Gangut on Mariya) and slightly better speed of this design probably.
 
Tier VI - Russian Empire/Soviet Union

Измаил

IZMAIL, 1938

Name: The Siege of Izmail, 1790
Type: Izmail-class battlecruiser of 1914 as modernized late '30s
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
4x3 – 356-mm/52 – M1913 10x – 130-mm/55 – B-7 2x4 – 37-mm/67 – 46-K
4x2 – 130-mm/55 – B-2-U (dual-purpose) 12x2 – 37-mm/67 – 66-K
8x1 – 37-mm/67 – 70-K
8x1 – 12.7-mm/79 – DShKM
  • Turret-mounted aircraft catapult
 
Here is where things start to get interesting. A fictional refit Izmail was generally expected as the T6 ship and it shows a nice evolution of the same design as on the October Revolution with a whole ton of 37-mm auto-cannons slapped on wherever possible, though more uniform as the wildly kitchen-sink variety on the OctRev. Especially unique with the addition of a catapult as well as "carving out" space on the deck with removed casemates to mount DP 130-mm twin mounts in their place.
 
Tier VII - Russian Empire/Soviet Union

Синоп

SINOP, 1938

Name: The Battle of Sinop, 1853
Type: Kostenko M1917 Black Sea Dreadnought design as modernized late '30s
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
3x3 – 406-mm/45 – M1914 6x2 – 152.4-mm/50 – M1907 5x – 76.2-mm – 34-K
8x – 152.4-mm/50 – M1907 13x – 37-mm/67 – 70-K
6x2 – 100-mm/56 – B-54 (dual-purpose)
  • Turret-mounted aircraft catapult
 
The Black Sea dreadnought design, again generally expected as the Tier VII. Important here the modernization raised the B-turrets barbette allowing it a super-firing position instead of the 1914 design of it being level and thus blocked frontally by the A-turret.
Also this is actually where I expected the refits to replace the single-purpose turrets with dual-purpose 130-mm which WG instead applied a Tier earlier and instead left them untouched here and instead plopped on additional 100-mm turrets.
 
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Part 3 – Original Soviet designs:

Tier VIII - Soviet Union

Владивосто́к

VLADIVOSTOK, 1936

Name: «Ruler of the East», named after the City of Vladivostok
Type: KB-4 Type A Battleship (Project 21 to 23 in-betweener) of 1936
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
3x3 – 406-mm/50 – B-37 6x2 – 152.4-mm/57 – B-38 10x4 – 37-mm/67 – 46-K
6x2 – 100-mm/56 – B-54 (dual-purpose)
  • Stern-mounted aircraft catapult
 
One of the more traditional designs for a battleship slightly after the original Pr. 21 but before the final Pr. 23.
Also a solid choice for a name fitting into the theme of port cities as demonstrated by the ships of Novorossiysk and Arkhangelsk.
 
Premium Tier VIII - Soviet Union

Ленин

LENIN, 1945

Name: Vladimir "Lenin" Ulyanov
Type: KB-4 Project 21 Battleship of 1936 with mid '40s refit
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
3x3 – 406-mm/50 – B-37 4x3 – 152.4-mm/57 – B-38 9x4 – 37-mm/67 – 46-K
6x2 – 100-mm/56 – B-54 (dual-purpose) 10x2 – 37-mm/67 – V-11
  • Stern-mounted aircraft catapult
 
The Soviet Nelson-but-better design (not counting gimmicks like zombie-heals) lends itself actually quite nice as a premium ship. It's pretty much the same as the original Pr. 21 design just with a few more modern and additional twin 37-mms slapped on there for good measure.
Also the name is bit unconventional. Yes there were Soviet battleships (re)named after people (Marat and Frunze) but those were the "old" ones, generally revolutionary names were assigned to cruisers, whereas capital ships were named after places or communist concepts.
 
Tier IX - Soviet Union

Советский Союз

SOVETSKY SOYUZ, 1945

Name: «Soviet Union», named after the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Type: Project 23 Battleship of 1938 as modernized mid '40s
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
3x3 – 406-mm/50 – B-37 6x2 – 152.4-mm/57 – B-38 8x4 – 37-mm/67 – 46-K
4x2 – 100-mm/56 – B-54 (dual-purpose) 8x1 – 37-mm/67 – 70-K
  • Stern-mounted aircraft catapult
 
The render here seems the most rough one actually, missing a few 100-mm and a lot of 37-mm guns to even match up with the actual 1938 design let alone a possible 1945 refit.
I actually expect(ed) a modernized AA-suite for the Soyuz with the 152-mm single-purpose turrets removed, the 37-mm guns replaced with fewer 45-mm quad mounts and the 100-mm replaced with the modern mounts as on Chapayev/Kutuzov as a smoother transition to the Pr. 24's load-out.
 
Tier X - Soviet Union

Кремль

KREML, 1950

Name: «Citadel», named after the (Moscow) Kremlin
Type: Project 24 Battleship of 1950 mixed with the original 18-in guns toyed with for the Pr. 23
Primary Secondary Anti-Air
3x3 – 457-mm/55 – MK-1-50 8x2 – 130-mm/60 – BL-110 (dual-purpose) 12x4 – 45-mm/78 – SM-20-ZIF
16x4 – 25.4-mm/79 – 4M-120
 
The big one. Not much to say here as the design of the ship (apart from the choice of main battery) does not leave a lot of room for speculation/deviation.
Though I have to say that once again WG continues the tradition of dropping the ball on the naming of a Tier X battleship, after the original Großdeutschland Großer Kurfürst and France Republiqué unveilings (though both of their second tries there are great so here's hoping). While I can definitely see what they were going for with that name ("a floating fortress"), it still just doesn't really fit in the naming convention nor does it feel right. It makes as much sense as if there were a USS White House or a HMS Tower of London battleship. It also doesn't help that the average player would probably just butcher that down to "playing the Gremlin".
My personal suggestion still remains Krasnaya Zvezda i.e. Red Star which fits into the theming of ideological names (Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya, Parizhskaya Kommuna, Sovetsky Soyuz) as well as being a "step above" the Sovetsky Soyuz. You'd go from the October Revolution at T5 to the Soviet Union at T9 to pure icon of Communism the Red Star at T10.
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2018.12.08 22:58 adamseyes89 Mariya Oktyabrskaya - Wikipedia

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2018.12.05 11:59 ruger392 Logic in Choosing "War Stories"

I'm curious as to why DICE had to change existing facts to get a "War Story" with women in it. There were a lot of real women that actually participated in WW2 that did badass things that deserve a "War Story."
Why didn't they spotlight Mariya Oktyabrskaya, the chick that bought her own T-34 and (on multiple occasions) jumped out of her tank to repair its track in the middle of a firefight with bullets and shells clamoring and exploding all around her?
Why not Nancy Wake, who joined British special forces after helping the French underground? She was involved in countless raids and strikes, all of which would likely have made an excellent story.
Why not Virginia Hall, who was forced to retreat across a mountain range, on foot, alone, with a prosthetic leg?
There are so many "War Stories" that DICE could've chosen that involved real badass women. They could've avoided this whole debacle if they'd just done their research. Why, DICE, why?
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